From Jake Kave, on Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:58:16 GMT (in response to: Jane Fonda is cool you loser!)
Looks like Hanoi Jane may be honored as one of the "100 Women of the
Century". JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately many have forgotten
and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not
only
the idea of our "country" but the men who served and sacrificed during
Vietnam. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to,
but
Jane
Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one
of
them.
Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her
attentions.
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The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is
JerryDriscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF
Survival
School was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton". Dragged
from a
stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he
was
ordered to
describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and
humane
treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and
dragged
away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp
Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off-which sent
that
officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col still suffered from double
vision
(which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col's
frenzied application of wooden baton.
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From 1983-85, Col Larry Carrigan was the 347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd
spent 6
years in the "Hilton"-the first three of which he was "missing in
action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got
the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace
delegation"
visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the
world
that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper,
with
his
SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and
a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking
little
encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and
"Are
you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of
paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and
once
the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she
turned
to the officer in charge...and handed him the little pile. Three men
died
from the subsequent beatings. Col Carrigan was almost number four.
For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs
Including
Col Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on charges of
treason.
I don't know that they used it, but the charge of "Negligent Homicide
due
to
Depraved Indifference" would also seem appropriate. Her obvious
"granting
of
aid and comfort to the enemy", alone, should've been sufficient for
the
treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally
charged
with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich
and
famous.
I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry.
Part
of our shortfall is ignorance: most don't know such actions ever took
place.
Thought you might appreciate the knowledge. Most of you've probably
already
seen this by now... only addition I might add to these sentiments is
to
remember the satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some
airbase or another where "zaps" of Hanoi Jane's face had been
applied.
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To whom it may concern:
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was
captured
by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held
for
over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in
a
cage
in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North
Vietnamese
captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in
a
leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the
jungle
near
the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90
lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When
Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political
officer
if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I
would
like
to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was
far
different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and
parroted
by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with
outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten
with
a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours
after I
was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on
TV. She
did not answer me, her husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was
mind
controlled by her husband. This does not exemplify someone who should
be
honored as "100 Years of Great Women."
After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the
anti-war movement. I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very
high
regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and
went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war protesters took this
same
route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended
the
war
much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many on that somber black
granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is
the
American way. Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor,
and
went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists,
and
urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and
some of
the POWs murdered, she called us liars. After her heros-the North
Vietnamese communists-took over South Vietnam, they systematically
murdered
80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on
her
head
forever. Shame! Shame! ( History is a heavy sword in the hands of
those
who
refuse to forget it. Think of this the next time you see Ms.
Fonda-Turner
at a Braves game).
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