Chat Transcript, 97-06-15
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Chat Transcript, 97-06-15
=> [David] joins at Sun Jun 15 19:55:22 1997 from 151.198.127.30
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 | David=> Hey Don |
| Don=> Whats up dave |
| David=> company just left, house is a mess |
| Don=> just got home, otherpeoples house is a mess |
| David=> works better that way! |
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| David=> I have 7:59 |
| Rob=> Hi everyone. |
| David=> Hello |
| Don=> let's get this show on the road |
| Rob=> I'm with you. |
| Rob=> How are you guys doing so far (coursewise)? |
| David=> OK, still need to invest more time. |
| Rob=> It does take a lot of time.... |
| Rob=> and it's pretty strange compared with non-oop. |
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| David=> yes |
| wachsmut=> Hi everybody .... |
| Don=> ahh, finally |
| wachsmut=> sorry I'm late .... |
| wachsmut=> First thing: |
| wachsmut=> happy father's day, for those who are .... |
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| Don=> thanks, you too |
| David=> thank youditto |
| wachsmut=> and, no game 7 today ! |
| Don=> yaeh, your team got lucky |
| wachsmut=> well ... I did get my degree in the midwest, |
| wachsmut=> so I felt obliged to vote for the Bulls ... |
| wachsmut=> lucky me ! |
| wachsmut=> Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the 'breather' ... |
| wachsmut=> no new lecture until yesterday, hope you're 'caught up'.... |
| wachsmut=> I only have one question right now .... |
| wachsmut=> then we'll - try to - do something new .... |
| David=> no comment |
| wachsmut=> -:) |
| wachsmut=> So ..... this time, I ask you first: |
| wachsmut=> any questions ? |
| Rob=> I have a couple.... anybody else first? |
| wachsmut=> That's no surprise ... |
| wachsmut=> go ahead, maybe people will be less intimidated later ... |
| David=> go for it |
| Rob=> ok.. here goes: In our MoveBox example, what drew the outside rectangle? |
| Rob=> that is, the box the moving rectangle was in. |
| wachsmut=> you mean the outside rectangle that shows up in the lecture notes ? |
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| Rob=> Hmmm, I think I just mean the box the buttons and the rectangel were in.... |
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| wachsmut=> I see, we can do that .... |
| wachsmut=> any drawing, and I mean *any drawing*, must be done by ... |
| wachsmut=> well, by which method ? |
| Rob=> paint |
| wachsmut=> (that's a 'public String question()') |
| wachsmut=> yes, exactly ! |
| wachsmut=> So, if you simply put, in any applet, a paint method, |
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| wachsmut=> or better, override the paint method, with a call like this: |
| wachsmut=> public void paint(Graphics g) |
| wachsmut=> { |
| wachsmut=> g.drawRect(0,0, size().width-1, size().height-1); |
| wachsmut=> } |
| wachsmut=> then you'll get a 'border' around the entire applet. |
| wachsmut=> Probably that's what you're referring to, I hope .... |
| Rob=> ok. that's why I asked... this is what you did in the DrawingCanvas example. |
| wachsmut=> Yes ... but actually, in the DrawingCanvas example, |
| wachsmut=> the box is not around the drawing area AND the buttons, |
| Rob=> right. |
| wachsmut=> it is only around the drawing area - which is, in some sense, |
| wachsmut=> the point of using a canvas ..... |
| wachsmut=> (that was my only question for today, I'll come back to that later) |
| wachsmut=> Any more questions ? |
| aisha=> no |
| Rob=> the default for action is super.action... what does super.action return? |
| Rob=> False? |
| wachsmut=> well, it depends .... |
| wachsmut=> return super.action(e, o) |
| wachsmut=> means that my action method will give the superclass |
| wachsmut=> a chance to handle the action event. If it does handle it, |
| wachsmut=> it will return true. But ... |
| wachsmut=> perhaps it, too, includes a call to super.action(e, o), in |
| wachsmut=> which case it passes the action event up one more time. |
| wachsmut=> An action method should return |
| wachsmut=> 'true' if it really handles the event, otherwise it |
| wachsmut=> should give the 'next' action method a chance to handle it. |
| wachsmut=> Matter of fact, that did cause lots of confusion |
| wachsmut=> in general, and that's exactly what |
| wachsmut=> was changed in Java 1.1 .... the event handling mechanism |
| wachsmut=> was improved a lot ... because people were pretty confused. |
| wachsmut=> For now, as a rule of thumb: |
| wachsmut=> - you handle the action even, you should return 'true'. |
| wachsmut=> - you don't handle it, you should give another action method a chance .... |
| wachsmut=> so much for that (from me). |
| wachsmut=> Anything else ? |
| aisha=> nope |
| David=> no |
| wachsmut=> (you are allowed to say no ....) |
| wachsmut=> Alright, then .... |
| wachsmut=> here's my question: |
| wachsmut=> what's a canvas, and what's it good for ? |
| wachsmut=> (while you're thinking, we have all five registered class members here !) |
| Rob=> It's a space on which to paint (no joke intended). |
| wachsmut=> (that's great, thanks for coming today !!!) |
| wachsmut=> |
| wachsmut=> Yes, exactly, that's what it is ! |
| wachsmut=> but .... |
| wachsmut=> you can always paint by simply overriding the 'paint' method, |
| wachsmut=> so why is a Canvas necessary ? |
| wachsmut=> well ... when you 'paint' in a, say, Frame, then your drawings |
| Rob=> It provides a specific object within the application in which the drawing ... |
| Rob=> takes place.... |
| wachsmut=> yes .... exactly, thanks, Rob. |
| Rob=> Or should I say applet? |
| wachsmut=> Anything ... |
| wachsmut=> a 'Canvas' can reside in anything (Frame, applet, etc).... |
| wachsmut=> If you simply override a 'paint' method inside a Frame, then |
| wachsmut=> your paintings will go 'everywhere', regardless |
| wachsmut=> of the GUI buttons, or anything else, that's already there. |
| wachsmut=> That means that often part of your drawing will be |
| wachsmut=> 'underneath' something else, hence it will not work right |
| wachsmut=> So ... |
| wachsmut=> if you paint inside a Canvas only, then you can |
| wachsmut=> use a layout manager to arrange that canvas together with |
| wachsmut=> the rest of your GUI componets, and then the |
| wachsmut=> drawing will only take place inside that canvas ! |
| wachsmut=> Let's take a look at an example .... |
| wachsmut=> First, as usual, you must be using |
| wachsmut=> Windows 95 + Netscape .... I hope you do ! |
| David=> ok |
| wachsmut=> I will be showing you an 'applet', that has two links at the bottom |
| wachsmut=> for some source code. Wait until the applet has loaded, then |
| wachsmut=> click on each of the source code links, and save the two files. |
| wachsmut=> to your disk. |
| wachsmut=> I mean the two source code files. |
| wachsmut=> Are you ready ? |
| wachsmut=> Please say 'yes' ... |
| Don=> yes |
| Rob=> yes |
| David=> yes |
| Jenn=> yes |
| wachsmut=> Aisha (I know, probably not using Win95 ...., oh well) |
| wachsmut=> Alright, here we go. Take 5 minutes to look things over, |
| wachsmut=> and save the source code .... |
| Rob=> Bert... I'm back... got these already from the lecture notes. |
| wachsmut=> please ... then, say 'aye' when you're back, please. |
| Rob=> probably.... |
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| Jenn=> i'm back.. |
| Don13=> me too but as a different name |
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| aisha=> i'm still here |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, everybody back, then.... |
| wachsmut7=> Now, in that code (same as in the lecture) there's an applet and |
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| wachsmut7=> a canvas class. The applet class simply arranges |
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| Rob1=> hello.. back |
| wachsmut7=> all components on the screen, including the 'Canvas'. |
| wachsmut7=> the 'Canvas' class is responsible for drawing. |
| David=> |
| wachsmut7=> Since it is a Canvas, it can draw where ever it wants to, and |
| wachsmut7=> it won't disturb anything else. |
| wachsmut7=> Alright .... let's keep that in the back of our head for now. |
| wachsmut7=> We will now try to change that applet you've just seen, |
| wachsmut7=> so that the box will move 'by itself' .... |
| wachsmut7=> We may not finish, but we'll start .... |
| wachsmut7=> Alright .... |
| wachsmut7=> what we want to discuss, briefly, is 'threads'. |
| wachsmut7=> A thread is another piece of code that can execute |
| wachsmut7=> independently and at the same time with the rest of your code. |
| wachsmut7=> One program can have many threads (no limit) that all |
| wachsmut7=> work simultaneously, but they can also |
| wachsmut7=> be synchronized, if necessary. |
| wachsmut7=> How does it work ? |
| wachsmut7=> For a program to use a thread, several things are |
| wachsmut7=> necessary: |
| wachsmut7=> 1. your applet (or frame, or anything else) must |
| wachsmut7=> 'implement Runnable' after the 'extends whatever'. |
| wachsmut7=> 2. You usually have a field of type 'Thread' |
| wachsmut7=> 3. You must implement a method called 'run' |
| wachsmut7=> 4. You should implement two methods called 'start' and 'stop' |
| wachsmut7=> that's all..... |
| wachsmut7=> here's an example ....... |
| wachsmut7=> again, get ready for an applet, together with a link for source |
| wachsmut7=> code. Take 5 minutes to carefully look at the source code, |
| wachsmut7=> and especially try to identify the step 1 - 4 mentioned above. |
| wachsmut7=> Are you ready ? |
| David=> yes |
| Rob1=> yes |
| Jenn=> yes |
| Don13=> yes |
| aisha=> y |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, here we go. See you back here in 5 minutes from now.... |
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| David=> lk;lk |
| David=> back |
| wachsmut7=> lk; lk ????? |
| Don13=> back |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, every body back ? |
| Rob1=> yes |
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| Jenn=> i'm back.. |
| wachsmut7=> Jenn and Alisha ? |
| wachsmut7=> Sorry ... meant to say: aisha ? |
| aisha=> i'm here |
| wachsmut7=> Great.... |
| wachsmut7=> So, I hope you saw something that simply counts up, |
| wachsmut7=> until infinity. |
| wachsmut7=> Here's how it works, briefly: |
| wachsmut7=> the class extends Applet, so it's an applet .... |
| wachsmut7=> when it's loaded, the 'init' method executes .... and adds |
| wachsmut7=> the textfield to the layout area. |
| wachsmut7=> Then it calls 'start'. |
| wachsmut7=> Since the field 'thread' is initially 'null', the 'start' method |
| wachsmut7=> will instantiate a new thread, with input "this", and then call |
| wachsmut7=> the 'thread's start' method. |
| wachsmut7=> When the thread's start method is called, it will automatically (!) |
| wachsmut7=> execute the applet's 'run' method |
| wachsmut7=> and that method is an infinite loop: |
| wachsmut7=> it increase the counter, |
| wachsmut7=> updates the textfield |
| wachsmut7=> and puts the thread to sleep for 400 milliseconds |
| wachsmut7=> inside some funny 'try-catch' phrase. |
| wachsmut7=> Since the loop inside the 'run' method is |
| wachsmut7=> an infinite loop, it looks as if your program will count, and count, |
| wachsmut7=> and count, and count, .... |
| wachsmut7=> but .... |
| wachsmut7=> what do you simply have to do to stop counting ? |
| wachsmut7=> Any clues ???? |
| David=> lleave applet? |
| wachsmut7=> I.e. how can you interrupt the seamingly infinite loop in the 'run' method ! |
| wachsmut7=> YES ! |
| wachsmut7=> Actually, what do you mean, 'leave applet', and 'why' |
| David=> go to another url? which will stop execution |
| wachsmut7=> yes, and why will it stop execution ? |
| David=> ? |
| wachsmut7=> Well ... anyone ? |
| Rob1=> Leaving executes stop. |
| wachsmut7=> Right ! |
| Don13=> wasn't there a method that happened when you leave and enter a page |
| wachsmut7=> Since the applet has a 'stop' method, that method will automatically |
| wachsmut7=> execute when you leave the page .... |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, great question, Don13 .... |
| wachsmut7=> what will happen when you revisit the page ? |
| wachsmut7=> and, of course, why ? |
| Don13=> the applet will start agaion? |
| wachsmut7=> Yes, because it implements the 'start' method ! |
| wachsmut7=> Both, the 'start' and the 'stop' methods are cooked up so that |
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| Don13=> does it sart from 0 or pick up where it left off? |
| wachsmut7=> I love it ... well ???? Take a guess !!!! |
| Don13=> probably from 0 right?? |
| wachsmut7=> Take another guess .... |
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| Don13=> pick up where it left off |
| Rob1=> Nothing re-initializes it. |
| wachsmut7=> look at the start method : does that method 'reset' the 'count' ? |
| wachsmut7=> As Rob said, it does not. |
| Rob1=> What does it mean thread != null? |
| wachsmut7=> It simply checks if the variable 'thread' is set to null. |
| wachsmut7=> 'null' is a special keyword, that refers to a 'well-defined' nothing-ness. |
| Rob1=> Sort of how I feel on monday mornings. |
| wachsmut7=> In the field declaration, 'thread = null' is declared. |
| Rob1=> Got it... and stop resets it to null. |
| wachsmut7=> then in start, thread is not null, because it get's instantiated. |
| wachsmut7=> Then, if you leave the page, the stop method sets 'thread = null'. |
| wachsmut7=> The start method will then, again, start the thread. |
| wachsmut7=> What would you have to do to 'reset' to zero after you leave and |
| wachsmut7=> re-enter the page ? |
| wachsmut7=> it's one line, added exactly where ? |
| David=> in the sip method? |
| David=> stop method |
| wachsmut7=> yes, that woud work. |
| wachsmut7=> Or, perhaps better, in the 'start' method. |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, that's the basic framework for using *one* thread: |
| David=> count + 0 |
| David=> = 0 |
| wachsmut7=> - declare a field 'thread' of type Thread, set it to null. |
| wachsmut7=> - define a 'start' method, exactly as the one you've seen |
| wachsmut7=> - define a 'stop' method, exactly as the one you've seen |
| wachsmut7=> - implement a run method .... |
| wachsmut7=> the run method *should* include a call to 'thread.sleep(###)', but |
| wachsmut7=> the rest of the run method is different for different tasks. |
| wachsmut7=> Actually, the 'thread.sleep(###)' is always embedded inside a |
| wachsmut7=> 'try-catch' block, just as you've seen. |
| wachsmut7=> So .... wanna change our 'Moving Box' to include a thread ? |
| wachsmut7=> I'll show you the applet, then .... |
| wachsmut7=> I'll quickly discuss the steps necessary to change the first source |
| wachsmut7=> code into that, and then - back to happy father's day ! |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, ready to see the final applet of the day ? |
| David=> yes |
| Rob1=> fire when ready |
| Jenn=> yes |
| aisha=> y |
| Don13=> sure |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, here we go ... be back soon, and say 'thanks' ... -:) |
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| David=> back |
| wachsmut7=> woah, that's quick .... |
| Jenn=> bback |
| wachsmut7=> Alright .... hang on just a little longer ! |
| wachsmut7=> David, Jenn back, how about the rest ? |
| Rob1=> back |
| wachsmut7=> Alrihgt .... two more ... |
| wachsmut7=> Well, here's the steps necessary to accomplish that: |
| wachsmut7=> First, the original code is the one we've seen, and saved, at the |
| wachsmut7=> beginning of our 'chat' ... two classes, one applet, one 'canvas' .... |
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| David=> yes |
| wachsmut7=> which one will get the 'thread' ????? (That's the 'key question') ! |
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| David=> applet |
| wachsmut7=> Remember, the applet handles the events, while |
| wachsmut7=> the 'canvas' handles the drawing.... |
| wachsmut7=> so, what does or thread do ? |
| wachsmut7=> Does it have to do with events, or does it have to do with |
| wachsmut7=> drawing ? |
| David=> drawing |
| wachsmut7=> Well ... the threa |
| wachsmut7=> Exactly ! |
| wachsmut7=> (sorry) ... |
| wachsmut7=> so, here's today's wrap-up .... |
| wachsmut7=> Take the 'DrawingCanvas' class from earlier, and do the following: |
| wachsmut7=> - add a field 'thread', set it to null, of type 'Thread' |
| wachsmut7=> - add 'implement Runnable' to the 'extends Canvas' |
| wachsmut7=> - add the 'standard' 'start' and 'stop' methods, as seen before |
| wachsmut7=> dealing with thread (called 'standard thread control) |
| wachsmut7=> - add a 'run' method including a thread.sleep(100) call inside |
| wachsmut7=> a 'try-catch' block', just as before, nothing new. |
| wachsmut7=> - here's the new stuff: |
| wachsmut7=> add a field 'String direction = "left" to the canvas class |
| wachsmut7=> add if statements to the 'run' method like this: |
| wachsmut7=> if (direction.equals("left")) |
| wachsmut7=> boolean dummy = handleLeft(); |
| wachsmut7=> else if (direction.equals("right")) |
| wachsmut7=> boolean dummy = handleRight(); |
| wachsmut7=> etc. |
| wachsmut7=> Finally, add one more method to the 'canvas' class: |
| wachsmut7=> public boolean changeDirection(String _direction) |
| wachsmut7=> { |
| wachsmut7=> direction = _direction; |
| wachsmut7=> return true; |
| wachsmut7=> } |
| wachsmut7=> Save and compile. |
| wachsmut7=> Change the applet, but only two changes: |
| wachsmut7=> - in the ation method, change 'handleLeft()' to |
| wachsmut7=> changeDirection("left"); |
| wachsmut7=> etc. |
| wachsmut7=> add 'drawing.start()' to the 'init()' method. |
| wachsmut7=> |
| wachsmut7=> That's it ! |
| wachsmut7=> I'll post the solution on Tuesday, but |
| wachsmut7=> I hope you'll experiment before that ! |
| wachsmut7=> Sorry I went overtime, class over - |
| wachsmut7=> I'll be hanging around for questions .... |
| wachsmut7=> if you have any ! |
| wachsmut7=> Thanks A LOT for all showing up on a great day as today ! |
| Rob1=> thank to YOU too. |
| Don13=> thanks, 'ill look this over again and post any questions to |
| wachsmut7=> P.S.: In case you didnt' catch it, I'll post the transcript in 30 minutes ! |
| Don13=> the discussion board |
| Don13=> bye! |
| David=> |
| wachsmut7=> Bye - love quesitons ! |
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| Rob1=> bye |
| David=> good night |
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| wachsmut7=> night ! |
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| Jenn=> actually i have a question about the jdk... |
| wachsmut7=> yes ? |
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| Jenn=> well i finally got my computer to work.. and i installed it and the pfe.. |
| wachsmut7=> GREAT ! |
| Jenn=> and i saved the files for my protfolio and compitled the program.. |
| wachsmut7=> so far so good ... |
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| Jenn=> but i keep getting 2 errors when i compile the test file |
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| aisha=> bye - great class :] - good night |
| wachsmut7=> Night, Aisha ! |
| wachsmut7=> (thanks) |
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| Jenn=> i mean the file with the main method... |
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| wachsmut7=> what are those errors, Jenn ? |
| Jenn=> and i think i'm typing it in right.. |
| Jenn=> class Task not found in type declaration |
| wachsmut7=> Well, can you mail me the file ? I can take a look then ? |
| Jenn=> Task toDo = new Task(); |
| wachsmut7=> If you mail me right away, I'll look at it and have an answer 30 minutes |
| wachsmut7=> after I get it ..... |
| wachsmut7=> it's hard to discuss specifics such as that in 'chat' .... |
| Jenn=> but i compiled them in pico and they both compiled.. |
| wachsmut7=> Hmmm .... |
| wachsmut7=> sounds strange...... |
| wachsmut7=> perhaps you forgot another file ? Something like 'TaskTest.java' and |
| Jenn=> because i think the only way i can mail it to you is through my sciris account.. and i don't want to write over the files in there.. |
| wachsmut7=> 'Task.java', both in the same directory ? |
| wachsmut7=> No - you have Netscape, so you can email ! |
| Jenn=> i have Task.java as the program file |
| wachsmut7=> That is, send email, perhaps not receive it. |
| Jenn=> and TaskTest.java for the main file |
| wachsmut7=> Yes, that' right .... it sems ... and both in the same directory, I anm |
| wachsmut7=> |
| wachsmut7=> sure. |
| wachsmut7=> Wanna know how to send email with Netscape ? |
| Jenn=> i think i need information from the service that i dialed into for the netscape mail to work.. |
| Jenn=> and my brother won't give it to me... |
| wachsmut7=> Not at all .... |
| wachsmut7=> it's easy, no info needed ! |
| wachsmut7=> wanna know ? |
| Jenn=> oh... ok. let me try it.. |
| Jenn=> sure.. |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, here's the steps: |
| wachsmut7=> first, click on 'options', then pick 'mail and news' .... |
| wachsmut7=> make sure you find 'servers' or something like that, and you |
| Jenn=> oh yeah.. i downloaded netscape 4 and it's great! |
| wachsmut7=> Even better ... here's exactly what to do, then: |
| wachsmut7=> click on 'Edit', the 'Preferences'..... |
| Jenn=> uh huh... |
| wachsmut7=> then on 'Mail' and 'Groups' |
| wachsmut7=> (make sure you click on the little 'plus' sign') |
| wachsmut7=> click on Identity, fill in your name and email address at SHU |
| wachsmut7=> click on Mail server, and under SMTP server, fill in 'www.shu.edu' |
| wachsmut7=> That's it. |
| wachsmut7=> Leave incoming mail server (pop3) blank.... |
| wachsmut7=> Then click on File, then 'new', then 'message', and send your message |
| wachsmut7=> to 'wachsmut@shu.edu' - simply 'cut-and-paste' your source code, |
| wachsmut7=> or attach via the attach button. |
| wachsmut7=> Got it ? |
| Jenn=> got it! |
| Jenn=> thanx.. =) |
| wachsmut7=> Alright .... I'll be waiting ... if that does not work, |
| wachsmut7=> simply 'post' your code to the discussion area (perhaps that's |
| wachsmut7=> the better way, and easier, anyhow (using cut-and-paste) |
| Jenn=> oh yeah one more thing.. |
| wachsmut7=> yes ? |
| Jenn=> for me to put my program onto my homepage.. |
| Jenn=> do i have to copy it to the sciris account? |
| wachsmut7=> yes, using the 'FTP' program you can download from our |
| wachsmut7=> homepage. |
| wachsmut7=> I'll post some details, it's a good point (I forgot to do that |
| Jenn=> ok.. |
| wachsmut7=> so far, thanks for bringing it up ) |
| wachsmut7=> I'll have that done tomorrow, not tonight, though .... -:) |
| Jenn=> great... thanks for all your help! |
| wachsmut7=> Alright, then, waiting for your email ! And no problem ! |
| wachsmut7=> Bye . |
| Jenn=> bye |
=> [wachsmut7] leaves at Sun Jun 15 21:20:21 1997
=> [Jenn] leaves at Sun Jun 15 21:20:23 1997